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November 19, 2024

New Midwest Infrastructure Must Respect Trends, Experts Say

By Amanda Durish Cook

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — While Midwestern grid planners aren’t certain about the future of energy infrastructure, they do agree that planning must yield to a convergence of trends, including low-cost renewables, energy storage, escalating cyberattacks, flat demand and legacy generation verging on the antique.

The Missouri Energy Initiative had the first event in their MidWest Energy Policy Series on April 10, focusing on infrastructure. | © RTO Insider

Those trends will dictate the direction of new buildouts, according to industry experts speaking Tuesday on a infrastructure panel as part of the Midwest Energy Policy Series hosted by the Missouri Energy Initiative.

Trends

Hall | © RTO Insider

Missouri Public Service Commission Chairman Daniel Hall said new infrastructure placement must take into account a blend of national trends, including declining wind and solar costs, the natural gas fracking boom, aging power plants and transmission lines, and declining demand for electricity due to household energy efficiency and the country’s downsized manufacturing sector.

“Most distribution lines were constructed in the 1950s and 1960s, and they were expected to last 50 years,” Hall said.

Many utilities are planning utility-scale renewable projects, he said, pointing out that Ameren has requested a certificate of convenience and necessity for a 700-MW wind farm by 2020.

“If completed, that would account for almost 10% of Ameren’s power generation,” Hall said.

While renewables could fill in for aging baseload generation, RTO planners questioned whether the demand-light Midwest needs an abundance of new generation development. Other panelists agreed that years of 3% annual load growth are a thing of the past.

SPP Manager of Transmission Services Charles Cates said SPP’s queue holds 70 GW of generation, which, if built, would exceed the RTO’s current peak loads.

David Van Beek, MISO external affairs manager, said his RTO is still experiencing a “drastic generation shift” toward renewables even with the uncertainty surrounding the Clean Power Plan. He noted that solar projects account for one-third of MISO’s record-setting 90-GW-plus generation interconnection queue.

The Promise of Storage

Even with the addition of all that proposed generation, panelists said storage projects could facilitate local consumption of the output, precluding the need for the new transmission lines planned for in the past.

Midwest Energy Policy Series Energy Infrastructure
Lohrbach | © RTO Insider

Jay Lohrbach, manager of generation projects for City Utilities of Springfield, Mo., said a joint 1-MW battery storage project between his utility and NorthStar Battery at the Cox substation will likely defer the need to build transmission infrastructure in that area.

Lohrbach said that by the end of 2019, the utility will be supplying the city with 40% renewable power.

“This is Springfield, Mo., not California,” Lohrbach reminded the audience. “That’s amazing.”

Lohrbach said utilities are in the unenviable position of balancing when to retire uneconomic and slow baseload coal and nuclear units with a duty to provide capacity. “The bar has been placed pretty high in how efficient we have to be,” he said. “It’s a tough situation economically for utilities.”

He said NorthStar’s batteries can be designed exclusively to manage small spikes of demand, catering to a country with otherwise flatlining loads.

“Battery storage can scale down to the size of your house pretty readily,” Lohrbach said. He added that storage batteries have no fixed costs, only upfront construction costs and fairly well-defined variable costs.

“It’s pretty easy to decide when to discharge the battery,” Lohrbach said. “And if I don’t deploy it, it can just sit there and not cost me anything. It’s a completely different economic model than anything we’ve seen before, and we need to wrap our heads around it.”

Lohrbach said RTO transmission planners aren’t yet planning for the full impact of storage developments.

In response to an audience member’s question about the prospect of planning transmission explicitly to accommodate energy storage in the wake of FERC’s Order 841, Van Beek said the order was too new to shape transmission planning. Both this year and last, MISO incorporated a fourth future scenario into its transmission planning process as distributed and emerging technologies become more widely used. (See MISO to Recycle Tx Planning Scenarios for 2019.)

Chris Neaville, asset development director of St. Louis-based mining company Doe Run, said large industrial consumers also want storage projects.

“We think the future for us is really developing our own microgrid,” Neaville said.

Doe Run envisions a microgrid that could shave its peak loads through 21 to 50 MW of behind-the-meter, onsite solar power and up to 16 MW of battery storage, which could also serve as back-up generation for its mines’ critical systems.

“We could become interruptible load,” Neaville added.

He said electricity is Doe Run’s single biggest operating cost at about $23 million annually, and that 1960s-era transmission lines deliver power to its remotely situated mines.

Neaville said he’s worried that Ameren is currently being granted about 5% rate increases about every 18 months, with each hike subtracting about $2 million to $3 million from the company’s bottom line.

“Our concern for the future is that if it continues at that rate, it’s not sustainable,” Neaville said. “There’s a break point where we have to do something differently. We can’t keep increasing these rates.”

Doe Run would prefer not to build its own generation, Neaville said, so the company hopes to partner with a utility on a microgrid project.

Grain Belt Express

Discussion veered to Clean Line Energy Partners’ embattled, high-voltage Grain Belt Express transmission project, whose fate is now in the hands of the Missouri Supreme Court. The stalled $2.3 billion, 780-mile line was designed to transmit Kansas wind generation to the western border of Indiana after crossing Missouri and Illinois.

Hall said that although the Missouri PSC found the project worthy, its hands were tied in denying the application because the Caldwell County Commission refused consent for the transmission line to cross public roads.

He said the commission was bound to follow the Western District Court of Appeals’ decision that the certificate could not be lawfully granted without county approval.

“That is essentially a road map for county commissioners to focus on their voters. … It doesn’t make sense from my perspective that you’ve got county commissioners that can decide the fate of interstate transmission lines,” Hall said.

Clean Line’s situation highlights the need to either change state law or have the federal government supersede state jurisdiction, he said.

“Hopefully, the [Missouri] Supreme Court will get it right.”

Hall also hopes the court’s opinion “would not say that the PSC erred” in denying the certificate, as the commission was legally bound to issuing a denial.

MISO-SPP Interregional Projects

Van Beek | © RTO Insider

Van Beek and Cates discussed whether their RTOs would approve a first-ever interregional project along their seam, especially near Kansas and Missouri. Both agreed their two-year joint modeling process can sometimes delay project approval.

“It’s a really tedious process,” Van Beek said.

Cates | © RTO Insider

“The time frame of modeling is quite extensive,” said Cates, adding that while the RTOs’ can usually agree about what areas need a transmission project, they can get stuck on how to divide costs. MISO and SPP staff have recently suggested abandoning their joint model in favor of more closely aligned regional models. (See MISO, SPP Look to Ease Interregional Project Criteria.) The two RTOs plan to wait a year before embarking on another joint study in hopes of improving their process to gain approval for an interregional transmission project.

ITC Holdings’ Chris Winland said his company wants to be on the “cutting edge” of planning transmission infrastructure for future wind developments in Kansas and Oklahoma. He said those areas are home to the “best wind in the country” and predicted more development.

Cybersecurity

Heger | © RTO Insider

Whatever infrastructure is built, it needs to withstand increasingly sophisticated cyberattacks, said Ameren Chief Information Officer Mary Heger.

Ameren uses a combination of systems monitoring, virus scanning, network segmentation, quarantine programs for suspect email and “whitelisting” — which authorizes which applications are allowed to run, thereby excluding all other programs, she said.

“The program we put in place is designed to protect us against a broad scope of actors.”

Heger said Ameren also has an in-house training program called Cybersafe, where the utility will test employees by sending simulated phishing emails — the kind of which that set in motion the 2015 cybersecurity attack on Ukraine’s grid.

“People really are one of the weakest links,” Heger said.

“As long as people click on links … that will be a very popular way to get a foot in the door,” said Galen Rasche, Electric Power Research Institute senior program manager.

Rasche said a more mobile utility workforce, dynamic supply and demand balancing, increasing automation of operations, customer self-generation and home energy management programs all create more opportunities for cyberattacks.

He said an integrated — or “multiparty” — grid, in which generation and storage assets are not necessarily owned and operated by utilities but are aggregated by a third party, presents a more complex security challenge. He predicted that some aggregation vendors will go out of business within five years and asked what will happen to their data after they fold.

“Cybersecurity now can’t be the sole responsibility of the utility,” he said. “We need to make sure we’re having this conversation with everyone in the room.”

SPP Group Balks at Mountain West Concessions

By Tom Kleckner

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A small group of SPP members have asked the Board of Directors to reconsider its decision to move forward with the Mountain West Transmission Group’s integration until “there is more consensus within the SPP membership as to how to proceed.”

In a letter filed for inclusion in the background materials for the board’s April 24 quarterly meeting, the group called for reopening negotiations with Mountain West to create a path “towards a single RTO with a single set of rules for all participants.”

It reflects growing stakeholder concerns over the board’s March 13 approval of policy recommendations intended to govern the terms of Mountain West’s membership in SPP. The board approved 18 policy statements and directed staff and stakeholders to begin revising SPP’s Tariff, bylaws, membership agreement and other governing documents. (See SPP Begins Work of Integrating Mountain West.)

The letter, dated April 6, was signed by load-serving entities Kansas City Power & Light, Municipal Energy Agency of Nebraska, Nebraska Public Power District, Oklahoma Gas & Electric and Western Farmers Electric Cooperative.

No Prior Notice

It charges that SPP’s full membership did not see the policy recommendations — such as new Mountain West-only stakeholder systems to manage regional cost allocation and zonal rate design — prior to board approval.

Based on the analyses presented so far, it is impossible for the board and stakeholders “to evaluate the potential impacts associated with the East-West bifurcation of SPP’s governance structure,” the companies said.

“The process has afforded neither the ability of the existing members to be well-informed nor the opportunity for the policy recommendations to be supported by the collective membership,” the five utilities wrote. “We want to see one set of rules applied to all entities — East and West — unless there is a physical or legal limitation (e.g., federal exemption) that must be honored. Any expansion of SPP to include new transmission-owning members must be designed so that both SPP’s existing members (and thus their customers) and the new entrant receive benefits. And if existing SPP customers are assigned additional costs, there should be corresponding benefits.”

MOPC Discussion

Separately, OG&E’s Greg McAuley brought the issue to the fore as SPP’s Markets and Operations Policy Committee meeting ended Wednesday. He asked that the minutes note as “we participate in the working groups [on Mountain West’s integration], it should not be reflected as overall acceptance of the proposal.”

SPP
OG&E’s Greg McAuley states his company’s position | © RTO Insider

“We’re still opposed to the Mountain West integration as proposed,” McAuley said. “Some of the revision requests are very complicated. They’re very difficult and complex, and they need to be reviewed appropriately. We don’t want our participation in that work to be viewed as demonstrating approval of the overall proposal or, conversely, intentionally slowing the process of getting the revision requests approved.”

Saying he did not want to leave McAuley “hanging out there by himself,” American Electric Power’s Richard Ross said his company also has “significant reservations about the structure of the proposal.”

“We don’t feel like it’s as good as it could have been done or should have been done. It brings risk to the existing membership,” he said. “But we will work through the stakeholder process. When given lemons, we’ll try make as good a batch of lemonade for the RTO as possible.”

One of AEP’s concerns is the cost of potential upgrades to the four DC ties connecting SPP and the Mountain West entities. The upgrades have been proposed as an approximate 70-30 split on a load-ratio share between East and West. SPP and Mountain West say that incorporating the ties into the RTO’s market will lead to lower production costs and savings from sharing operating reserves.

Yet to be determined is what happens should any Mountain West entities leave the expanded RTO after the DC ties are upgraded.

“I don’t want be in a situation where new members join and then they turn around and leave, and I have to continue paying for their DC-tie cost under the exiting provisions of the bylaws,” Ross said.

SPP: Not Surprised

SPP said the pushback was not unexpected, noting that its stakeholder process is built around collaboration, consensus-building, candor and open dialogue.

“In short, concerns expressed by our members to our board is a natural part of our established process, and we welcome dialogue with them,” the RTO said in a statement. “Now that we’re transitioning to a more public, inclusive phase of the integration process, we fully expect and welcome questions from our members regarding implementation of the board-approved policies.”

Xcel Energy spokesman Mark Stutz, speaking for the Mountain West entities, pointed out the SPP board’s March approval was of policy terms agreed to by the group’s utilities.

“The Mountain West members are now engaged in the public stakeholder process to develop the implementing language in the SPP Tariff and related contracts. Although final decisions have not been made, we plan to continue work in the established SPP public stakeholder process to complete these efforts,” Stutz said.

$500 Million not Sufficient

There was little other public support for McAuley and Ross at the MOPC meeting, but away from the microphones, stakeholders said the $500 million in total net benefits promised by SPP to existing members over the first 10 years of Mountain West’s membership is not sufficient.

They also expressed concerns about the time needed to vet Tariff and governance revisions and the exit provisions for Mountain West entities. SPP has said it hopes to bring a package of revision requests to the board in July for its approval.

SPP REV Mountain West Transmission Group RTO Insider
SPP’s Carl Monroe | © RTO Insider

Sunflower Electric Power Cooperative’s Tom Hestermann asked SPP COO Carl Monroe what was the sense of urgency driving the stakeholder process. Hestermann noted that the Regional Tariff Working Group has scheduled 17 meetings (five of which are multiday affairs) before the July 31 board meeting to manage the 12 revision requests before it.

“It’s always an issue of how do you ensure there’s due diligence,” Monroe said. “When setting a schedule, how do you ensure the parties have adequate time and the urgency to get something done and also have the ability to push back when key issues arise that need to be resolved. That’s the goal that’s been set.”

The Market Working Group faces a similar work load. It has scheduled seven meetings before the board meeting to handle the 20 Tariff changes it currently faces.

Monroe also told stakeholders that SPP and Mountain West are still negotiating a transition service agreement, but that staff have “every intention” of providing “all the protections that have been requested” should Mountain West walk away from the deal.

He said SPP has exhausted the funds allocated by the Finance Committee for integration work, which has led to a temporary halt in the effort.

“We’re not doing anything for integration until they sign the agreement,” Monroe said. “We’re pushing to get it done.”

SPP projects it will take about two years to fully integrate the Mountain West entities as members, but it plans to begin reliability coordination services in late 2019.

UPDATE: MISO Clears at $10/MW-day in 2018/19 Capacity Auction

By Amanda Durish Cook

MISO’s sixth annual Planning Resource Auction cleared at $10/MW-day in all but one zone, a nearly seven-fold jump over last year’s single clearing price of $1.50/MW-day.

The RTO reported clearing 135 GW of capacity on Thursday, with nine of its 10 local resource zones clearing at $10/MW-day. The lone outlier was Zone 1 — covering parts of Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Dakotas — which cleared at $1/MW-day. MISO’s Independent Market Monitor has reviewed and certified the results.

“This year’s auction results reflect an adequate availability of resources for the planning window and the grid’s capability to effectively and efficiently transfer resources among local resource zones,” MISO Executive Director of Market Operations Shawn McFarlane said in a press release.

MISO planning resource auction
| MISO

MISO said this year’s price increase was driven by “an increase in the planning reserve margin requirement, a decrease in supply and changes in market participant offer behavior.” Come June, the RTO will have a 17.1% planning reserve margin, based on limiting the likelihood of shedding load to no more than one day in 10 years.

MISO Manager of Resource Adequacy John Harmon on Friday said zero-price offers declined compared to last year’s auction.

“It does seem that participants had a greater appetite for risk,” Harmon said.

MISO maintained a 15.8% planning reserve margin for the 2017/18 planning year, when all zones cleared at $1.50/MW-day. Last spring, CEO John Bear said that the 2017/18 price resulted from high supply and low demand. (See All Zones at $1.50/MW-day in 5th MISO Capacity Auction.)

The last two auctions were a departure from three years ago, when almost all of MISO Midwest cleared at $72/MW-day for 2016/17, and four years ago, when Illinois’ Zone 4 cleared at $150/MW-day for 2015/16.

The RTO also said auction results were in line with the results of last year’s Organization of MISO States-MISO resource adequacy survey, which predicted sufficient capacity to meet near-term planning requirements through 2022. (See Capacity Survey Shows MISO in the Black.) McFarlane said the results demonstrate the “grid’s capability to transport those megawatts across the zones.”

MISO said this year’s auction continued the increase in non-traditional resources. About 1,600 MW of additional demand response, energy efficiency and behind-the-meter generation cleared, bringing the total to 11,000 MW, 8% of all resources. McFarlane said the increasing use of load-modifying resources to meet capacity needs underscores the need for MISO to continue its discussions on resource availability and need. (See MISO Looks to Address Changing Resource Availability.) The RTO said it will “continue to focus on the importance of long-term resource adequacy as the industry and generating fleet continues to evolve. MISO will also continue to support state processes around resource adequacy planning.”

During a Market Subcommittee meeting Thursday ahead of the auction results, Independent Market Monitor David Patton said he expected low auction capacity prices to continue “indefinitely.” In late February, FERC rejected the Monitor’s latest request to order MISO to apply a sloped demand curve, which he said would result in more efficient pricing. The commission said the RTO’s vertical curve was just and reasonable, noting that 90% of load is served by vertically integrated utilities. FERC also said pricing takes a backseat to the auction’s main objective to maintain reliability. (See FERC Vacates, Upholds MISO Resource Adequacy Rules.)

Zone 1

Harmon said 142 GW was offered in this year’s auction, 4 GW above the reserve margin requirement even when factoring in capacity stranded by transmission constraints, which would’ve accounted for another 2 GW in excess capacity.

“Zone 1 did bind on its capacity export limit this year. This binding did occur on the same transmission facility as last year,” Harmon said during an April 13 conference call with stakeholders.

WPPI Energy’s Steve Leovy expressed concerns over improper binding and price separation in Zone 1. In stakeholder meetings, Leovy has repeatedly called attention to MISO’s capacity export limit, which does not distinguish imports sourced outside the RTO from those sourced inside, making available transmission capacity appear scarcer than it really is, according to Leovy.

“I wouldn’t expect that line to bind. I would expect that line to have a lot of slack,” Leovy said. He said MISO must change the calculation behind its capacity import limits.

MISO staff on the conference call promised more information on capacity export limits and the RTO’s simultaneous feasibility test at the May 9 Resource Adequacy Subcommittee meeting.

Consumers Energy’s Jeff Beattie said it would be helpful for MISO develop a presentation showing how transmission capacity might increase around Zone 1 when the RTO’s multi-value transmission projects come online.

PJM Board Seeks Reserve Pricing Changes for Winter

By Rory D. Sweeney

Winter is coming — or at least it will be coming again — and the PJM Board of Managers wants at least some energy price formation restructuring by then.

In a letter to stakeholders released on Thursday, the board acknowledged the heavy lift that implementing staff’s original price formation white paper might entail, but it said there is consensus between PJM staff and the Independent Market Monitor on changes to improve reserve pricing. The letter directs staff to identify changes that can be implemented for next winter and “respectfully requests stakeholders to deliberate timely” so that the revisions can be completed by the third quarter, in time for FERC approval for winter 2018/19. (See “Additional Reserves Needed?” PJM MRC/MC Briefs: March 22, 2018.)

PJM Board of Managers winter reserve market pricing
The graphic explains the issue PJM hopes to resolve with its energy price-formation restructuring. | PJM

“We have been informed that PJM staff and the IMM agree that PJM should implement a 30-minute reserve product in real time to comport with the current day-ahead scheduling reserve product, address issues with the current implementation of the synchronized reserve market, implement a more dynamic establishment of reserve requirements so as to better capture operator actions taken to maintain reliability, and enhance the operating reserve demand curves used to price reserves during reserve shortage conditions,” the board wrote.

“Given the level of agreement between the IMM and PJM staff, the board believes that this more targeted issue may present an excellent opportunity for the stakeholder community to come together and demonstrate that the PJM stakeholder process can deliver thoughtful and timely consensus action.”

Dual Issues

The board reiterated its position that energy and reserve market pricing issues must be examined because “there are times when operators commit resources to ensure reliability but these commitments are not reflected through market clearing prices such that those prices can be suppressed and result in undesirable outcomes.”

The energy market issue has been the focus of the Energy Price Formation Senior Task Force, which is considering the revisions proposed in PJM’s white paper as part of a wider stakeholder analysis. (See “PJM Pushes Price Formation Plan,” FERC, RTOs: Grid Performed Better in Jan. Cold Snap vs. 2014.)

“The board is well aware of questions stakeholders have raised regarding this proposal. The board has listened to stakeholders and appreciates that changes to the LMP calculation require careful consideration,” the board wrote.

It also notes that FERC is already considering PJM’s proposal to apply integer relaxation to fast-start resources as part of its fast-start pricing docket (EL18-34). (See FERC Drops Fast-Start NOPR; Orders PJM, SPP, NYISO Changes.)

In recent PJM stakeholder meetings, the reserve market issues have become the central focus.

“We are hopeful that on an issue such as this one where there appears to be ample, empirical evidence that a market design change is needed, where there is significant alignment between PJM staff and the IMM concerning the need for change, and where there is clear direction as to the nature of the improvement required, such timely consensus can be achieved,” the board wrote.

It asked that the remaining issues be resolved by the first quarter of 2019 so they can be approved and implemented by the summer of 2019.

“Such timely action, if it can be achieved, will reinforce confidence in the ability of the stakeholder process to deliver timely consensus solutions,” the board wrote.

FES Bankruptcy Creating Additional Uncertainty

By Rory D. Sweeney

FirstEnergy Solutions’ bankruptcy is creating repercussions that extend beyond the question of whether the merchant generator will survive.

While speculation had been swirling for months that FES, FirstEnergy’s generation arm, would soon go under, the company’s March 31 bankruptcy filing was overshadowed by its announcement that it was shuttering nearly 4,000 MW of nuclear generation and requesting an emergency order from the Department of Energy to keep its ailing fleet running. (See FES Seeks Bankruptcy, DOE Emergency Order.)

As part of its bankruptcy filing, FES requested the authority to end its long-held “sponsorship” of the Ohio Valley Energy Corp. (OVEC) and block FERC from making any ruling on the issue. FES requires FERC approval to void its inter-company power agreement (ICPA) with OVEC.

OVEC responded by petitioning the U.S District Court for the Northern District of Ohio to withdraw the request, contending that FERC has exclusive authority over wholesale power agreements that can’t be addressed by a bankruptcy court. The court denied that argument and found that FERC and the bankruptcy court have “concurrent jurisdiction” over the companies’ ICPA.

“Thus, FES must seek approval from both FERC and the Bankruptcy Court to reject the ICPA. FERC will apply the [Federal Power Act’s] public interest standard to determine if the rejection comports with federal law,” the court said.

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Clifty Creek Power Plant Complex | Crowezr

OVEC, headquartered in Piketon, Ohio, is still awaiting FERC’s decision on a complaint (EL18-135) it filed on March 26 in anticipation of FES’ filing.

Under the current ICPA, which runs through June 30, 2040, OVEC provides power from its two coal-fired generating plants — the 1.1-GW Kyger Creek in Cheshire, Ohio, and 1.3-GW Clifty Creek in Madison, Ind. — to its eight corporate “sponsors” that include FES. The units are already pseudo-tied into PJM, and the sponsors can sell their portions of the output into the RTO’s markets.

FERC PUCO bankruptcy PPAs
Kyger Creek Power Plant

OVEC has been granted permission to join PJM as of June 1 but will have no load after a DOE contract ends sometime before 2023. The company was created in 1952 to service a uranium enrichment plant near Piketon that ceased operations in 2001. The department ended the 2,000-MW contract in 2003; it maintains a load that can be 45 MW at its maximum but is generally less than 30 MW.

While the sponsors are not required to sell their output, they are required to pay their portion of OVEC’s costs. There is no requirement for the other sponsors to make up for any shortfalls from companies that don’t pay. FES has a 4.85% stake, equating to about $30.1 million annually, according to OVEC’s federal court complaint (5:18-mc-00034-DAP).

PUCO Concerns

Separately, the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio has opened an investigation (18-569-EL-UNC) into FES’ retail sales and its future marketing plans in light of revelations that the company is still offering consumer contracts for up to three years. PUCO gave the company until May 4 to file a detailed explanation about whether it plans and is able to continue its retail sales business.

The order came a day after FES confirmed during its initial bankruptcy hearing on April 3 that it has contracts with more than 900,000 retail customers and plans to sell them to other suppliers. A day earlier, FES had filed a notice with PUCO in its relicensing case (00-1742-EL-CRS) that the bankruptcy wouldn’t affect its retail operations. The company must seek relicensing every two years to be a retail energy supplier.

NEI CEO: FirstEnergy Emergency Request a ‘Bridging Strategy’

By Michael Brooks

Nuclear Energy Institute CEO Maria Korsnick on Thursday expressed support for FirstEnergy Solutions’ request that the Department of Energy declare an emergency in PJM to prevent the shutdown of the company’s three nuclear plants.

NEI PJM DOE Nuclear Energy Institute Maria Korsnick
Korsnick | NEI

But she called the request — along with state zero-emission credit (ZEC) programs — a “bridging strategy” for the industry: temporary measures to keep the plants afloat until RTOs/ISOs and FERC reform wholesale market price formation.

“Ultimately, the fix that’s needed is that recognition [of nuclear’s emissions-free output] in the marketplace. That recognition has been a bit slow in coming, which is why you’re seeing the level of activity that you’re seeing at the state level,” Korsnick said. “The long-term answer is going to be one that’s market-driven.”

Korsnick was responding to a question submitted through a Facebook Live webcast of NEI’s Annual Briefing for the Financial Community. After giving a speech on the state of nuclear industry, she answered questions, which were also submitted by email, relayed to her by NEI spokeswoman Monica Trauzzi.

In both her speech and answers to questions — some submitted by NEI staff, Korsnick was nonspecific about the issue of price formation. She instead consistently came back to the value of nuclear as a contributor to states’ carbon-reduction goals and a “resilient” source of electricity. She praised ZEC as an example of good state policy and noted that Maryland and Washington are considering carbon taxes.

NEI PJM DOE Nuclear Energy Institute Maria Korsnick
Monica Trauzzi (left), Nuclear Energy Institute senior director of external communications, relayed questions submitted by Facebook and email to CEO Maria Korsnick during a webcast. | NEI

“The pursuit of clean energy can threaten our nuclear plants if we don’t do it thoughtfully. If the goal is to reduce emissions, then all zero-emission technologies must be part of the solution. We must recognize what we already have in place and build on that. Replacing zero-emitting technology with other zero-emitting technology won’t help.”

She also applauded Congress’ extension of nuclear production tax credits to allow the construction of Georgia Power’s Plant Vogtle Units 3 and 4 to be completed.

But Korsnick warned that generation owners plan to prematurely close 12 reactors and that “if nothing is done to save these plants, the impacts will be devastating.”

“If all of these 12 plants close, we will lose over 120 million MWh [per year] of carbon-free generation,” she said. “That’s equal to half of all the megawatt-hours of wind electricity generated last year in the United States.

“We can stick with a myopic focus on short-term prices. Or we can strive to preserve a resilient, robust electricity system, jobs, tax revenues, clean air and healthy communities.”

To counter the grim warnings, Korsnick highlighted positive developments in the industry. She pointed to NuScale’s small modular reactor design, which she said is “progressing well” through the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and to the Trump administration’s support for Saudi Arabia’s plans for as many as 16 nuclear reactors.

“The export market is growing, and our success there will strengthen the U.S. supply chain and its support of the existing U.S. fleet,” she said.

Gatekeeper or Facilitator? FERC Panels Debate EDCs’ DER Role

By Rory D. Sweeney and Rich Heidorn Jr.

WASHINGTON — Panelists at day 2 of FERC’s technical conference on distributed energy resources (AD18-10, RM18-9) debated whether electric distribution companies (EDCs) should serve as gatekeepers or facilitators for resources seeking to participate in energy markets.

EDCs and their allies said they should have control over DERs on their systems, while DER supporters called for strict criteria on utilities’ ability to block DERs.

FERC’s Technical Conference on DER continued Wednesday with four panels of speakers | © RTO Insider

The first day of the conference focused on how RTOs and state regulators can craft policies that encourage DER to participate in wholesale markets while minimizing the burden on grid operators. (See RTOs, Regulators Set Course for DER Market Participation.)

Conflicts of Interest?

Audrey Lee, vice president of energy services for residential solar and storage provider Sunrun, said EDCs should only be allowed to block DERs through a showing that they would endanger system reliability.

“I think we need some specific examples [of problems] before creating any rules on this,” she said, adding that utilities seeking to install their own resources could have conflicts of interest. She noted that CAISO’s Tariff gives EDCs a deadline for reviewing DER applications and reserves the final decision for the ISO.

Maria Robinson, director of wholesale markets for Advanced Energy Economy, said distribution companies “should be facilitators, not a gatekeeper … preventing the ability of [DER] aggregators to enter.”

She suggested EDCs identify zones that can absorb DERs without reliability problems. If they are to review DER applications, EDCs should be given deadlines requiring them to act quickly, and rejected applicants should have the right to appeal to the RTO/ISO or FERC, she said.

“The vast majority of issues should be worked out with the interconnection agreement” between the resources and transmission operator, she said, adding that reviews should be done only once for each interconnection.

Pete Langbein, manager of demand response operations for PJM, also said interconnection studies should consider DERs once, as opposed to “iteratively.” The studies “may evolve over time” to provide the information needed to evaluate DERs’ impact, he acknowledged.

Interconnection Agreements not Enough

But David K. Owens, retired executive vice president of the Edison Electric Institute, said EDCs need to know DERs’ attributes to understand which ones could cause system disturbances. “Just having a list of aggregators is not sufficient,” he said. “[Distribution] utilities have to know when DERs are deployed. … Interconnection agreements alone will not do it.”

Jeff Taft, chief architect for Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, said DERs become potentially more disruptive as their density increases and that the effects are more significant on distribution lines. “The closer you get the edge of the distribution system, the more you see the volatility caused by DERs,” he said.

Taft said that although distribution lines are generally designed as radials rather than the “mesh” network of transmission, they are “dynamic” because EDCs reconfigure their systems daily. “A resource that may be running through substation A, a few minutes later may be running through substation B.”

State ‘Opt-out’

David Crews, senior vice president of power supply for East Kentucky Power Cooperative, said EDCs must have authority to protect their systems to avoid imbalances on distribution feeders. He disagreed with projections that DERs will be evenly distributed, saying they are more likely to be clustered in wealthier areas where residents can afford solar panels and storage. “It can cause problems; I’m not saying it will.”

Crews also said state regulators should have the ability to “opt out” from allowing retail customers to participate in wholesale markets. EKPC joined PJM in 2013 based on an agreement with Kentucky regulators that state residents would not be able to participate in the RTO’s markets, he noted.

Crews said there is little use of solar and storage among EKPC’s 16 distribution utilities, which use five different makes of meters. “For us to go through the administrative cost of developing a tariff is burdensome to our members” at current penetration levels, he said. “If our members have enough [resources] out there that they want it, we’ll do it.”

Cross Purposes

Mark Esguerra, director of integrated grid planning for Pacific Gas and Electric, warned of conflicts between DERs transacting with RTOs/ISOs and ones providing services to distribution companies. “You could have a situation that none of the parties — the ISO and the distribution utility — get the response they’re looking for.”

The penultimate panel of the day included (left to right): David Crews, EKPC; Mark Esguerra, PG&E; Daniel Hall, OMS; Peter Langbein, PJM; Audrey Lee, Sunrun; David Owens, formerly EEI; Maria Robinson, AEE; and Jeff Taft, PNNL | © RTO Insider

Esguerra said the 10-day EDC review deadline suggested by some “could be a challenge without more sophisticated modeling tools.”

Missouri Public Service Commission Chairman Daniel Hall, vice president of the Organization of MISO States, said state regulators should set criteria for DER registration and that EDCs must have authority to approve DERs on their systems. “All distribution systems are unique and the people who know them best are the people on the ground, which is the utility and the utility’s regulator.”

Hall said clear criteria on when EDCs can reject DERs will keep EDCs honest. “That gets us beyond the gatekeeper/facilitator” debate, he said.

There was general agreement that RTOs/ISOs, EDCs and aggregators will need to develop new communication protocols to manage higher levels of DERs. Hall urged FERC to allow regional differences by allowing each RTO and its stakeholders to develop their own rules, subject to commission approval.

Visibility

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Gerald Gray, the Electric Power Research Institute’s (EPRI) program manager for information and communication technology, said that although some utilities do not have supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) at all substations, the expansion of advanced metering infrastructure means “there is a lot of granular data providing visibility” on distribution systems.

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But Matthew Glasser, a director at Consolidated Edison, said his company and other New York utilities do not have the visibility they need to manage DERs. “Communication with DERs now is low-tech. It’s phone and emails.”

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Joseph Ciabattoni, PJM’s manager of markets coordination, said the RTO typically communicates — via phone — with transmission operators, which do the same with their DERs.

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Brandon Middaugh, senior program manager for distributed energy for Microsoft, said ISOs and RTOs have “very limited visibility into distribution.”

Visibility also was the subject for the first panelists of the morning — five of eight of whom were from grid operators or utilities. As Portland General Electric Vice President of Transmission and Distribution Larry Bekkedahl put it, system operators “can’t manage what you don’t measure.”

Bekkedahl said the information would allow utilities to avoid overbuilding capacity to the “worst-case scenario,” as is done today, and instead “put in as much capacity as necessary.”

Jens Boemer, the principal technical leader of EPRI’s Transmission Operations and Planning Group, said he learned from experiences in his native Germany that any data that can be collected “relatively easily” should be done “as early as possible” because it becomes more expensive to do it later. He also said it’s important to stop combining DER performance with load because it masks the additional services it provides.

Unpredictability

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Clyde Loutan, a principal on renewable energy integration for CAISO, said DERs contribute to the unpredictability of load. “We have system operators trying to control a grid with unpredictable demand and variable supply, so we’re always in reactive mode,” he said.

Donnie Bielak, PJM’s manager of reliability engineering, called that “a scary thought,” because the RTO watches CAISO as a barometer of what’s to come on DER issues. “We need an absolutely accurate load forecast to operate the system and operate it economically,” he said.

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Ganesh Velummylum, a senior manager of system analysis at NERC, placed the responsibility with transmission owners. He said they should ensure they have the necessary data before they agree to interconnect the resources.

“It starts with the TO,” he said. “Once we have the data, we can do studies. … We have to start with collecting the data through the interconnection process.”

‘52-Hz Problem’

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Lack of data can create wider issues, as Boemer illustrated through what he called the “52-Hz problem” in Germany. Many DERs were programmed to trip off at frequency thresholds that are very close to normal frequency, which meant that small and normal frequency variations could cause widespread loss of DERs on the system.

It’s an issue PJM is currently looking at by increasing resources’ “ride-through” requirements. (See “Implementing DER Ride Through,” PJM Operating Committee Briefs: March 6, 2018.)

None of Germany’s transmission operators had modeled that problem in its studies, Boemer said. But the industry was able to identify the risk through published research and knowledge of system operations and operating standards. A catastrophic trip never occurred, but the German government set up a retrofit program to reprogram the trip settings for more than 400,000 distributed photovoltaic resources, he said.

Benefits

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Panelists also said DERs have the potential to benefit systems by addressing reliability issues and perform important grid services. In fact, the variability is useful, Bekkedahl said.

“What used to be very stable generation is moving on us,” he said. “Now that we’ve got variable generation going on, it’s really nice to have variable load.”

“The technology is there” to set up support for power, frequency ride-through and voltage support on the system, Velummylum said.

“They all interact,” he said. “I think it’s important that we look at the collective support DER can provide.”

DERs can also provide non-wires solutions, Bekkedahl said, noting their role in the cancellation of the Bonneville Power Administration’s I-5 Corridor Reinforcement Project. The 80-mile, $1.2 billion, 500-kV line would have helped Oregon utilities manage summer peaks when they were receiving no generation support from south of Portland.

“If Oregon was hot, California was hotter,” Bekkedahl said.

But subsequent DER development in California has changed the situation and eliminated the need for the transmission project. “Can we find non-wires solutions? I think absolutely,” he said.

Unlocking such solutions will require encouraging DERs to participate in wholesale markets so they are committed and required to provide information, Bielak said. “The only way you can determine if you can rely on them is with enough data,” he said.

Long-term Projections

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FERC staff also asked panelists to discuss how to develop long-term projections, and many panelists looked to state policies because they drive development. Marcus Hawkins, the director of member services and advocacy for the Organization of MISO States, noted that a MISO study ended up relying on publicly available data because a voluntary survey of DER owners performed by a consultant received low participation.

“I think it starts with having a good understanding of the status quo” of what’s on the system today, Boemer said. He outlined “hosting capacity” studies that analyze distribution systems to identify potential thermal issues that could limit DER deployment on feeder lines. The analysis creates a heat map “that can indicate how much DER may be able to interconnect to certain areas on the distribution grid,” Boemer said.

DERs in Planning

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The morning’s second panel focused on including DERs in system planning. Velummylum, who remained for the second panel, had a quick response. He held up two reliability guideline studies NERC has published that discuss DERs. “Folks, it’s out there,” he said.

Ning Kang, a staff scientist at Argonne National Laboratory, said the lab is working on improving its models through analysis it performed by studying smart inverter functions and focusing on how applicable standards impact performance.

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Brant Werts, Duke Energy’s lead engineer for DER technical standards, said his company only considers the impact of losing DERs in specific areas. During the recent solar eclipse, he said the company lost a significant amount of DER but also knew it was coming and prepared for it. “We don’t believe that we would lose all of our DER at one time,” he said.

ETRACOM Pays $1.9M Fine for CAISO Manipulation

By Jason Fordney

Delaware-based trading company ETRACOM agreed to pay $1.9 million to settle allegations that it manipulated CAISO markets in a scheme that netted the company $315,000 in profits.

But the company also issued a statement Tuesday dismissing the allegations by FERC’s Office of Enforcement as “absurd theories.”

An April 10 FERC order approving a consent agreement (IN16-2) with ETRACOM shows the company and principal trader Michael Rosenberg — also a respondent but not listed as paying the fine — neither admitted nor denied the accusations. ETRACOM agreed to pay the fine for submitting virtual supply transactions intended to reduce the day-ahead LMP and increase congestion at the New Melones intertie in 2011.

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FERC in 2016 sought a $2.4 million civil penalty from the company and a $100,000 penalty from Rosenberg in addition to disgorging profits. (See FERC Seeks $2.5M Fine in CAISO Market Manipulation.) ETRACOM said Tuesday that FERC had “dropped its long-standing position that an individual trader in this case be assessed a civil penalty.”

The commission said the agreement “is a fair and equitable resolution of the matters concerned and is in the public interest, as it reflects the nature and seriousness of the conduct and recognizes the specific considerations” stated in the agreement, which is not subject to appeal.

The decision specifies disgorgement by ETRACOM of $315,000 plus interest of $84,000 to be paid to CAISO for distribution to market participants impacted by the company’s trading.

In the order, the commission noted it had filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California to request an order affirming the penalties. In its statement, ETRACOM said it had opposed the lawsuit and been victorious in winning full discovery rights under a de novo standard of review, entering mediation with FERC to produce the settlement.

ETRACOM said it “opposed Enforcement’s brazen misinterpretation and manipulation of the record; absurd theories which rest on reverse engineering of conclusions to produce a ‘fraud by hindsight;’ reliance on circumstantial inferences unhinged from the facts; ignoring of significant exculpatory evidence; and inappropriate ‘sandbagging’ in reply to ETRACOM filings.”

It added that “regardless of the outcome of our case, ETRACOM remains optimistic on the role of FERC in regulating and enforcing energy markets and on long-term reform of the enforcement process.” The company agreed to develop and implement a compliance program based on FERC’s November 2016 “Staff White Paper on Effective Energy Trading Compliance Practices.”

FERC Enforcement alleged that in May 2011, ETRACOM submitted and cleared uneconomic virtual supply transactions intended to artificially lower the day-ahead LMP and create import congestion at New Melones. ETRACOM’s virtual supply offers resulted in a $42,481 loss, while FERC staff estimate the company earned $315,000 in profits on its congestion revenue rights positions. Staff estimated the alleged scheme resulted in the market overpaying all New Melones CRR source holders, including ETRACOM, $1.5 million. The overpayment was funded by New Melones CRR sink holders and revenue inadequacy.

The company has long contended that the losses were because of market flaws and that it had rationally attempted to profit from a record hydro event in May 2011 that caused congestion at the New Melones intertie node. But FERC argued that market flaws were irrelevant to the case. (See FERC: Market Flaws Irrelevant to Case.)

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ETRACOM pointed to an investigation that “dragged on for over five years and which saw a kaleidoscope of lead attorneys and their bosses with the diffusion of individual responsibility becoming the norm at Enforcement.” The company’s legal and subject matter team was also extensive, including Robert Fleishman of Morrison & Foerster, Matthew Connolly of Nutter McClennen & Fish and former FERC Chairman William Massey, now of Covington & Burling.

The agreement represents one of a series of high-profile challenges by market participants to FERC Enforcement against alleged market manipulation, including a case against Powhatan Energy Fund that resulted in the agency having to conduct a de novo review. (See FERC Settlement Cuts Barclays Market Manipulation Fine.)

CRRs have been a major subject of debate in CAISO in recent years as the ISO moves to restructure its markets over what it says are hundreds of millions of dollars in payment deficiencies being footed by electricity consumers. CAISO’s Board of Directors approved one package of CRR reforms last month and the ISO has additional phases in development. (See CAISO Developing New CRR Proposal.)

NYISO Business Issues Committee Briefs: April 11, 2018

RENSSELAER, N.Y. — NYISO power prices averaged $29.91/MWh in March, down from $33.83 in February, and $34.97 the same month a year ago, Nicole Bouchez, ISO principal economist, told the Business Issues Committee (BIC) on Wednesday.

The ISO’s year-to-date monthly energy prices averaged $60.06/MWh in February, up 59% from a year earlier. March’s average sendout was 413 GWh/day, down from 426 in February and 419 a year earlier.

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New York natural gas prices for the month averaged $2.85/MMBtu at the Transco Z6 hub, down from $3.14 in February and off 18.2% from a year ago.

Distillate prices were mixed compared to the previous month but gained 19.3% year over year. Jet Kerosene Gulf Coast averaged $13.76/MMBtu, up from $13.72 in February. Ultra Low Sulfur No. 2 Diesel NY Harbor averaged $13.78, down from $13.86 the previous month.

The ISO’s local reliability share was 19 cents/MWh, higher than 14 cents the previous month, while the statewide share of -51 cents/MWh was up from -64 cents. Total uplift costs were higher than in February.

Broader Regional Markets

Reviewing the Broader Regional Markets report, Bouchez highlighted two sections updated since the previous BIC meeting.

Item No. 23 covers a PJM proposal to develop pro forma pseudo-tie agreements that would apply to New York Control Area (NYCA) generators that sell all or a portion of their capacity to PJM. The agreements would provide commitment and dispatch instructions to those generators to meet PJM’s — rather than NYISO’s — needs.

NYISO has expressed concerns that the removal of an in-state generator from the ISO’s commitment and dispatch process limits its ability to manage the generator to ensure NYCA reliability. The removal also introduces compliance issues regarding New York State Reliability Council rules and decreases the efficiency of the ISO’s least-cost solution in its day-ahead and real-time markets.

The ISO is working with PJM to find solutions acceptable to both grid operators.

Item No. 27 concerns how NYISO determines locality exchange factors, which became an issue in 2015 when the ISO’s Market Monitor, Potomac Economics, raised concerns about the treatment of capacity exports from import-constrained localities.

The ISO in February 2017 deployed FERC-approved capacity market changes and asked General Electric to identify possible ways to refine the current methodology using a probabilistic approach. That effort proved unsatisfactory to stakeholders, and the ISO has engaged GE to work further on a formula-based methodology for determining locality exchange factors.

Public Website Redesign

Dave O’Brien, a NYISO project manager, provided an update on the project to redesign the ISO’s public website.

O’Brien said the new design will debut in the fourth quarter with a more intuitive layout and navigation, better mobile device interoperability and an improved search function.

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Stakeholders also expressed hopes that the website would better meet their needs. Howard Fromer of PSEG Power New York noted an example of spending minutes locating a document, being asked to sign in for access, then being redirected back to the homepage and to restart his search from scratch.

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NY Carbon Task Force Discusses Seams, ‘Leakage’

By Michael Kuser

The New York task force charged with determining how to price carbon emissions into NYISO’s markets on Monday tackled the complex issue of avoiding the pitfall of “carbon leakage.”

The term refers to when carbon market participants evade caps and prices by shifting electricity production to bordering areas outside the market.

The Integrating Public Policy Task Force (IPPTF) on April 9 heard two presentations on seams and leakage, part of issue “Track 2” in its five-track effort. The task force is jointly run by NYISO and the state’s Department of Public Service.

“It’s not an option at all to put a sizeable carbon charge on New York production and not do anything at the borders; that’s just not an option,” Brattle Group’s Sam Newell said during a presentation on applying carbon charge border adjustments to the ISO’s external transactions. “The reason you can’t is it creates a very unlevel playing field and would shift production to out of state in a very big way.”

Status Quo or Green Power

Newell presented two carbon pricing options to avoid market distortions. The “status quo” model would not consider carbon content in energy trades, while the second “green power” option would evaluate marginal emissions rates from out-of-state imports.

The status quo option could shift generation serving up to half New York’s load to out of state and also increase emissions regionally while only reducing them in state, Newell said.

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“We’re talking about something that could be on the order of $50/ton, could be $20/MWh,” Newell said. “Imagine putting a $20 penalty on internal generation and not external. Again, you’ve really unleveled the playing field.”

The second option would factor into the prices for imported electricity the estimated difference in the carbon content of emissions based on the region (PJM versus Quebec, for example), “and it does think about carbon content in terms of exports and what are you displacing on the other side,” Newell said.

In response to questions from several stakeholders, Newell said the carbon charge on imports would not be unit-specific, noting that neighboring regions do not identify their exports by generating unit.

He contrasted New York’s situation with the Energy Imbalance Market (EIM) administered by CAISO.

“That’s an integrated market, and if you just said these units in California have to buy allowances and the others don’t, you’d have the same leakage problem,” Newell said. “They had to build into the [EIM] some sort of border treatment. … Unlike New York when it’s thinking about its neighbors, the EIM actually is dispatching the region on a unit-specific basis.”

Other stakeholders asked about charging imports from neighboring regions based on their average — rather than marginal — emissions rates.

“In economics, for price signals, marginal is what matters, not average,” Newell said. “This is a whole topic in ratemaking. If you charge based on average, you’ll have unintended consequences and inefficiencies.”

Marginal emissions rates differ from region to region, he said, but the types of marginal units may be more uniform across neighbors than assumed. For example, “energy limited resources” in Hydro-Quebec and Ontario (often limited to shorter run times because of local environmental restrictions) are more likely to produce and export at the margins of the market.

“If you get it right, you incentivize cost-effective abatement everywhere,” Newell said, noting that approach is consistent with New York’s objective to reduce global emissions.

Specifying Emissions and Costs

Julia Frayer and Gabriel Roumy of London Economics International (LEI) presented a study commissioned by Hydro-Quebec Energy Services (Hydro-Quebec’s U.S. subsidiary) on potential methodologies to address leakage of emissions to and from neighboring areas.

Like the Brattle report, LEI stated that improper implementation of a carbon charge mechanism could derail decarbonization objectives and distort underlying market signals.

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LEI believes that a more granular approach to assessing carbon emissions rates for imports, based on resource- or area-specific emission rates, is superior in terms of economic efficiency, market impacts and reduction incentives.

“It’s all a matter of consistency, and it’s important when you look on the regional scale [that] you really need to look at unit-specific emission rates and what are these resources contributing to the overall Northeast markets,” Roumy said. “And the contribution is the lack of emissions that they are doing.”

Howard Fromer of PSEG Power New York said, “We want to know what the cost and price impacts are going to be to end-use consumers. If they’re a lot, then we’re probably not going to be very supportive. If they’re modest … then the next question we’re going to ask is: What are we getting for that extra cost? Are we getting significant carbon reductions, or are we just reshuffling the deck and making it look good?”

Warren Myers, DPS chief of regulatory economics, summed up the two political approaches represented in both the Brattle and LEI studies.

“One is keeping, as best as you can, interactions with other control areas on the same playing field that it’s currently on,” Myers said. “The other one is — do you want to take New York’s policy, or what the value of carbon is, and apply it beyond New York’s borders to address its consumption.”

In wrapping up the meeting, IPPTF co-chair Nicole Bouchez, NYISO principal economist, noted that the group will move a discussion on carbon charge implementation from May 7 to its next meeting on April 16 in response to stakeholder concerns.